may have to go to the back of the line, but you are waiting in the u.s., working in the u.s., you have everything you want having arrived in the u.s., you do not need to live in fear. the other guys are waiting in brazil and hong kong. the line here is already one where you are in the united states. >> you are right about that, but that is the whole point, to get rid of the shadow economy, shadow existence. then get these folks on the path to citizenship. if you know anybody who has been here initially legally, you know, even when they get a green card, their entire existence is devoted to getting citizenship. a green card is not their only desire. >> what about senator sessions' point about the unlawful flow of people into the country? how do you deal with that? >> the way we always have, and we have done much better. if you look at the numbers of people who are caught at the border now, -- some of the attrition in the legal immigration is due to the economy, but a great deal of it is not. you just need to look at the resources we have put in, and its successes. at some point, it is a